En passant, dans l'armée, souvent la patie des règles en français nous donne du fil à retordre. Les lois du gouvernement de Canada sont souvent écrites en anglais, puis traduites en français par des agences qui ne sont même pas dans le domaine. :roll: :roll:
Alors, dans le doute, on va voir la version anglaise:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/publi ... -1.htm#3-7
3.7 Crediting of Time
3.7.1 Operation of Dual Control Aircraft
(a) The pilot-in-command of a flight or any portion of a flight in a dual control aircraft shall be designated prior to takeoff.
(b) There shall be a satisfactory method of intercommunication between pilots in all aircraft under dual control.
(c) Flight time for pilots may be credited either as dual, pilot-in-command (solo) or co-pilot.
(d) Only the pilot designated as pilot-in-command may be credited with pilot-in-command (solo) flight time.
COMMENTAIRES: Cette section du 3.7 conserne les appareils à doubles commandes, DONC NOUS. En c) on parle de logger soit en DUAL, en PIC ou CO-PIL. Donc, 2 pilotes pilotant mon 172 (ou le votre qui a 2 set de commandes) répondent aux critères énumérés ci-haut)
3.7.2 In-flight Instruction (Dual): Non-Licensed Pilots
(a) Holders of pilot licences may give initial (ab initio) flight instruction, provided they are in possession of a valid instructor rating.
(b) When receiving in-flight instruction from an authorized flying instructor, a student pilot may be credited with dual flight time only.
(c) An instructor may be credited with pilot-in-command flight time when giving in-flight instruction to a student pilot.
COMMENTAIRES: Cette section du 3.7 conserne l'instruction DONC, PAS NOUS...
3.7.3 In-flight Instruction (Dual): Licensed Pilots
(a) The holder of a valid commercial or airline transport pilot licence may give in-flight instruction for familiarization, refresher and instrument flight training, provided the pilot receiving the instruction holds a valid pilot licence endorsed for the type or class of aircraft in the same category as the aircraft used, and the person providing the instrument flight training meets the requirements specified in CAR 425.21(7). This authority does not permit category conversion training, e.g. aeroplane to helicopter, gyroplane to aeroplane, etc.
(b) The flight time acquired under (a) may be credited to the pilot-in-command as pilot-in-command time, and as dual flight time to the pilot receiving the training.
(c) Not more than 3 hr of familiarization flight time acquired for any type or class of aircraft may be credited towards the flight time requirements for a higher type of licence.
COMMENTAIRES: Cette section du 3.7 conserne l'instruction DONC, PAS NOUS...
3.7.4 Instrument Flying Practice
(a) When licensed pilots are engaged in instrument flying practice with an appropriately qualified pilot, only the designated pilot-in-command may be credited with pilot-in-command flight time.
(b) The pilot undertaking instrument practice with an appropriately qualified pilot, if not the designated pilot-in-command, may be credited with dual flight time.
(c) The safety pilot, if not the designated pilot-in-command, may be credited with co-pilot flight time if the certificate of airworthiness requires a co-pilot on the type of aircraft being used.
COMMENTAIRES: Cette section du 3.7 conserne la pratique IFR DONC, PAS NOUS...
3.7.5 Co-Pilot: Non-Training
The holder of a valid pilot licence may be credited with co-pilot flight time acquired during flights on which they are the designated co-pilot of an aircraft, provided such aircraft is
(a) of a category, class and type endorsed upon their licence;
(b) required, by the certificate of airworthiness or an approved company operations manual, to be operated with a co-pilot; and
(c) fitted with dual controls and dual flight instrumentation.
COMMENTAIRES: Cette section du 3.7 conserne les fonction de CO-PILOTE DONC, PAS NOUS... Surtout que remarquez le point c) "fitted with dual controls and dual flight instrumentation" => nos appareils ont effectivement "dual control" mais pas "dual flight instrumentation"
3.7.6 Maintaining a Personal Log
In accordance with CAR 401.08, every applicant for, and holder of, a flight crew permit, licence or rating shall maintain a personal log.
3.7.7 Crediting of Actual Instrument Flight Time
During actual instrument flight, both pilots (the pilot-in-command and co-pilot or pilot under training) may be credited with actual instrument flight time.
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Donc personnellement, je comprend de ceci qu'on peut logger de 3 façons différentes:
1) 2 gars (ou filles :D , ou mix :twisted: ) assis en avant, 1 est pilote l'autre ne l'est pas, seul le pilote (assis à gauche) log dans
PIC;
2) 2 pilotes assis en avant => celui de gauche log PIC, celui de droite log DUAL si dans un avion à double commande comme les nôtre, ou comme CO-PILOTE si dans un avion de type à nécessiter un co-pilote; et,
3) un instructeur avec quelqu'un (pilote ou pas) => on sait comment logger ça :wink:
Pour moi c'est maintenant clair: si je voyage avec l'un de vous pour aller à OSHKOSH (ça s'appel de la visualisation :wink: ) ou autre destination..., je loggerai en DUAL.
Bonne journée à tous :!:
Denis 8)
