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Re: vidéo d'un pilote qui aurait du couper le moteur

Posted: Sat 19 Jul, 2014 16:46
by AMD
J'ai trouvé ceci comme explication:
Oh dear... Have to 'fess up. Things do come back to haunt one, don't they? This was me, Selina, in GYYF. Of course I have already received this video a few times in the last couple of days. I think it was 1999 or 2000.

What can I say? It was hot, I had 2 passengers and thought I knew more than I did about short field takeoffs. This little field is just outside of Victoria B.C. and once we were in the air we headed straight to Nanaimo's LONG runway to land and assess damages. The only victims, other than my pride, were the gear fairings as I did a bit of landscaping on the way out.

What was I thinking? I sure didn't use correct short field procedures and quickly ran out of room. I knew I was in trouble and also knew I was committed to the takeoff. As we lifted off my right seat passenger, a more experienced pilot (as was the second passenger in the back), was quick enough to yell at me to push the nose down and was ready to do so himself if I didn't. That instinct to pull up is strong especially with the tops of the trees coming at you.

Just about the best learning experience I've every had... And probably the scariest.

Coincidentally I met the owner of this little field this past weekend at a fly-in and we had a little reminisce about my "incident". The field is still in use although I think they have removed a few more of the trees at the end. I don't think I'll be tackling it again although a little voice inside says perhaps I should go back without passengers and do it properly!

Re: vidéo d'un pilote qui aurait du couper le moteur

Posted: Sat 19 Jul, 2014 18:16
by CampingMaster
AMD wrote:J'ai trouvé ceci comme explication:
Oh dear... Have to 'fess up. Things do come back to haunt one, don't they? This was me, Selina, in GYYF. Of course I have already received this video a few times in the last couple of days. I think it was 1999 or 2000.

What can I say? It was hot, I had 2 passengers and thought I knew more than I did about short field takeoffs. This little field is just outside of Victoria B.C. and once we were in the air we headed straight to Nanaimo's LONG runway to land and assess damages. The only victims, other than my pride, were the gear fairings as I did a bit of landscaping on the way out.

What was I thinking? I sure didn't use correct short field procedures and quickly ran out of room. I knew I was in trouble and also knew I was committed to the takeoff. As we lifted off my right seat passenger, a more experienced pilot (as was the second passenger in the back), was quick enough to yell at me to push the nose down and was ready to do so himself if I didn't. That instinct to pull up is strong especially with the tops of the trees coming at you.

Just about the best learning experience I've every had... And probably the scariest.

Coincidentally I met the owner of this little field this past weekend at a fly-in and we had a little reminisce about my "incident". The field is still in use although I think they have removed a few more of the trees at the end. I don't think I'll be tackling it again although a little voice inside says perhaps I should go back without passengers and do it properly!
Belle trouvaille, très intéressant, se faire raconter l'évènement par le pilote en cause.

Re: vidéo d'un pilote qui aurait du couper le moteur

Posted: Sat 19 Jul, 2014 20:23
by 120140415
Merci pour ce témoignage du principal intéressé q:)p q:)p q:)p : Il s'était commis à décoller et ça n'aurait pas été simple et très probablement pas anodin de chercher à interrompre son décollage dans cette pente descendante. Avoir pris la décision de décoller avec 2 passagers, je suis persuadé que j'aurais moi aussi poursuivi le décollage, surtout avec une belle pente descendante (mais peut-être avec une "meilleure" technique). À mon avis, et comme il le sous-entend lui-même, la réflexion sur ses propres connaissances/habiletés et les performances de son avion, il lui aurait fallu la faire avant même de faire démarrer son moteur.

Encore heureux qu'on ait presque tous un sac de chances...

Parlant de procédure, je suis personnellement un défenseur de la technique de franchissement d'obstacle "illustrée et non préconisée" parAvWeb http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/18208 ... directed=1: Maximiser la vitesse dans l'effet de sol avant le franchissement de l'obstacle (et pour moi, ça implique aussi de maximiser la prise de vitesse au sol en soulevant bien la queue). Dans le vidéo, j'ai plutôt l'impression qu'il a adopté la technique classique habituelle. Mais bon, comme AvWeb, pas question de préconiser cette approche que je considère éprouvée mais qui n'est pas approuvée...

Pierre

Re: vidéo d'un pilote qui aurait du couper le moteur

Posted: Sun 20 Jul, 2014 01:03
by JSB
Vidéo d'un pilote qui aurait du couper les arbres :shock: